Sometimes, talking with your PhD students can be like trying to negotiate with a silverback gorilla. And, maybe in those times you’re better off taking the same response as we did with COVID19 and physically distance yourself. But, for the other times, when its going to be tough but not gorilla tough – what can you do to make it easier? Or how could you have a tough conversation and avoid gorillas? I’ll look at different approaches to talking to PhD students. We’ll look at things from their perspective and also discuss real world examples.